Poll Question 026 - What environmental setting has been over used the most in SP levels?

Single Player First Person Shooter Maps and Mods for Half Life 1, 2 and 3

introduction

I’ve been thinking about the different types of environments and settings for single player levels. Which one I like, which ones I don’t and why etc. And I was specifically thinking about which ones have been over used. This week’s poll is about levels in single player games, specifically the setting.

What environmental setting has been over used the most in SP levels?

The Choices

Mining Facility
This one has to be near the top of the list. Almost every game set on a planet has a miming facility.
Secret or Military Base
That’s Half-Life 1 and most of its mods covered! I never get bored of these.
Spaceship
Been there, done that. How about a space liner? How about a spaceship that doesn’t have an accident?
Town or City
I live in one and want to play somewhere else!
Industrial Area
Train yard, factory, etc etc. Still good fun but wearing thin.
Other
Got one that I haven’t listed? Simply post a comment describing it.

I would love to see this

If I could play a level of my choosing, then today I would choose this: Flying Fortress. It could contain, plenty of mini-levels; storage area, passenger area, cockpit, even going outside on the wings!

What kind of level would you like to see?

Got a setting that you wish had been made into a level, then post it here. Maybe somebody will even build it for you!

Some Research

It would be cool if we could categorize all types of SP levels and then total them. That may take a lot of work and I wonder if we will actually learn anything.

Final Note

Because this is poll number 26 i.e. 6 months of weekly polls, I briefly toyed with the idea of listing the previous 25 polls and asking you which was you favourite but that seemed a little pointless!

Final Results

What environmental setting has been over used the most in SP levels?

Mining Facility: 30%
Secret or Military Base: 49%
Spaceship: 2%
Town or City: 7%
Industrial Area: 4%
Other: 8%
Total votes: 61

About this entry

Published:: 13th April 2007 at 6:26 pm

Category:: Poll Questions

Responses:: 16 Comments (add)

MMAN 13th April 2007 at 21:35 1

Other: Warehouse

Used a lot, but doesn’t really allow for much in the way of thematic diversity or other factors. I have to admit it does tend to provide interesting gameplay setups when done right due to its nature, but at the least this theme really needs a rest right now.

It might go under “Industrial Area”, but the things you mentioned (Train Yards, Factories etc) can be some of my favorite modern themes when done right, so putting it under that would be a disservice to that category.
zeroth404 13th April 2007 at 21:43 2

what a tough question…

I dont think any setting is “over used”, though I do tend to roll my eyes when it comes to games which take place “at area 51″.

I just get sick of games that lack environmental progression. not just outside/inside, but a good mixture of completely different environments that suit the game.

an office building in one level, progressing in to the suburbs in another, then down into the sewers, then back up on some farm, then into a small town…. that would make a good environmental progression for a zombie game — perhaps even They Hunger: Lost Souls.

I like progression. not just changed textures, either.
Afro-Dude 14th April 2007 at 05:51 3

The Alien World/dimension is a popular setting too, Xen anyone?

When it comes to alien worlds I expect wicked levels with a bizarre touch, Xen was excellent, except for its jumping madness, loved those skyboxes though.

Although my favorite setting is the secret base beneath a town or city, that’s why Poke646 is so much fun for me!
Manual_Monaro 14th April 2007 at 08:41 4

I chose “Secret or Military Base”. It’s really overused. Nonetheless, it’s one of my favourite settings, as well as ‘Town or city’ and ‘Spaceship’.

I love the look of that flying fortress. That’d be something great to play on. What if it was shifted to being underwater. Sure, Bioshock’s coming up, but that’s a city. This can be a huge submarine! It could start with the player boarding it on the surface then the submarine ducks down underwater. The views would be just as breathtaking as being in the air. That is, of course, some uber scientist in the game’s fiction invents portholes or windows that don’t crack under the deep water pressure (Or something like that.) Then again, the submarine doesn’t have to go too deep at all!
Darth Marsden 14th April 2007 at 10:12 5

Secret base. We get far too many of them. God only knows how people get the money to build them.

One thing I’d like to see more of is human bases on other planets. We don’t get them very often - Chaser (!) and Doom 3 are the only two recent examples that spring to mind - and when done properly, they can be impressive and great fun.
Goddess Alyria 14th April 2007 at 10:47 6

I think the military base is way over used & become boring after a while (especially Half Life). I’d like to see more of old underground cities or underground subways - the old abandoned parts that nobody talks about and you only see/hear about in really weird movies.
JC 14th April 2007 at 10:59 7

Idustrial Area… I’ve seen this setting several times in FPS (Pain Killer, Nitro Family, Soldier of Fortune…)
Anyway, as long as games are entertaining, it doesn’t matter whether they are over using environmental settings.
Personally, I love Cities and Bases on other planets; games like HL2, STALKER, AvsP and Doom 3 are perfect examples of how great a game can be when these settings are developed the right way.
Kasperg 15th April 2007 at 03:10 8

I think Town or City as well as Industrial are overused. Most realistic FPS games take place in some sort of urban or real setting. That’s usually my problem with them. When I’m playing games, I actually want to see something different. Destroyed cities and small towns are also something we get in every single WWII game. It can get boring to see, even if the shooting is always fun.
Can it be done in a proper way? I think HL2’s use of the city was perfect, because they introduced foreign components such as the citadel and other Combine architecture, devices and soldiers. The citadel also gives you a sense of progress and accomplishment as the story moves on, which is great (compare that to the never-ending office levels in F.E.A.R. and you’ll see what I mean).
The purely industrial parts of HL2 (I’m thinking the canals) were also boring after a while.
What would I like to see more in FPS?
I’d love to see things I haven’t seen before. It doesn’t have to be totally new settings! New situations in old settings work fine too.
Personally, I also love the ancient temple type of thing, or mostly anything that has the power to suggest a bit of magic and mystery to the story.
Goddess Alyria 15th April 2007 at 05:58 9

I was thinking more along the lines of National Treasure style.
Arque 15th April 2007 at 12:59 10

Judging by my love of QuakeII, Unreal and Return to Na Pali, I can’t get enough of trashing large alien industrial complexes or huge alien spaceships.
I could also hark back to Tomb Raider for those enigmatic ruins (looking forward to the redux incidentally, it’s the only TR I’ve ever played)
What I don’t like are invisible walls (why bother with the hole behind it?) and, lava/hazardous waste.
What do I want? Less gritty realism and, more alien worlds.
zeroth404 16th April 2007 at 01:15 11

I must comment about the Unreal screen shot.

Unreal is #3 on my list of greatest Signle Player FPS games. it isn’t much by todays standards, but when it was release it was one hell of an experience. It was a bit boring because there was no dialog, but the beauty of the environments, the stories told in the PDAs, the range of different styles of combat, the uniquity ofthe weapons — all this and more made Unreal become one of my favorite games, and it will always be one.

regarding environments: there were mountainy areas, wide outdoor areas, town areas, space ships, temples, tombs, and more.
geekofalltrades 16th April 2007 at 01:32 12

I’ve always thought that towns and cities are overused… for the same reason that someone else cited earlier, I live in one. In my opinion, games are only fun when they present fascinating fictional scenarios. (This is why I think sports franchises are dumb. You can go outside and play real sports… why play them on a computer?)

As for what I’d like to see more of, anything with something of an alien touch to it, be it sci-fi or fantasy themed. The purple-glowing mushrooms of the excellent HL2 mod eclipse, for example, lent a very unique feel to those levels. And the monk temple levels of the PS2 game Jak 3 are some of my favorite game levels ever. More recently, I’ve found that .kkrieger does a pretty good job with alien architecture, though that game was a bit underdeveloped. The final example I’ll cite is the end of the Lost City and Shadow Out of Time levels from the HL mod Cthulhu.
Goddess Alyria 16th April 2007 at 13:29 13

I think I would also like to see a very good graphics version of an underwater world. Your setting starts on a massive ship, possibly forced overboard or part of another type of mission, you delve deeper & deeper into the alien waters. I don’t want big ugly behemoth monsters but very sophisticated alien underwater adaption.
Matt Glanville 16th April 2007 at 15:36 14

One of the most important things for me in level design is that I can recognise the location. It’s for this reason that I’m so fond of Half-Life 2’s design; everything is so spot on and accurate that you can tell instantly exactly what sort of area it is. The actual setting doesn’t really bother me much, though I don’t really like dark areas…
Afro-Dude 18th April 2007 at 07:21 15

Now I remember, Blood 2 featured not exactly a flying fortess, but a base or something like that, it was the third or fourth level I’m not sure, it was pretty cool.
Anonymous 22nd April 2007 at 05:33 16

i’m a particular fan of urban settings, especially ruined, run-down or generally dilapidated and dangerous (think condemned: criminal origins.)