Comments on: Poll Question 116 – Would you like to fight against Gordon Freeman in a mod? http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/ Finishing Half-Life is just the beginning! Thu, 18 Mar 2010 17:24:36 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Grey Acumen http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-213782 Grey Acumen Wed, 02 Dec 2009 17:21:53 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-213782 If it's going to be done, it has to be done well. It also has to have a good reason. Otherwise don't bother. If it’s going to be done, it has to be done well. It also has to have a good reason. Otherwise don’t bother.
]]> By: GeorgeC http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-209145 GeorgeC Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:35:22 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-209145 At first I thought it might be fun but then realised that, the AI wouldnt be good enough. At first I thought it might be fun but then realised that, the AI wouldnt be good enough.
]]> By: Old Scratch http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201326 Old Scratch Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:26:40 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201326 y.e.t., why are you sitting here yammerin' when you could be finishing the mod??? GET BACK TO WORK, YOU... ;) y.e.t., why are you sitting here yammerin’ when you could be finishing the mod??? GET BACK TO WORK, YOU…

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]]> By: your evil twin http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201257 your evil twin Fri, 27 Mar 2009 01:04:06 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201257 It's the mod Phillip mentioned at the very top of this page. The mod was never finished (only a few levels were made for it, and only half the coding done). It’s the mod Phillip mentioned at the very top of this page. The mod was never finished (only a few levels were made for it, and only half the coding done).
]]> By: Old Scratch http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201241 Old Scratch Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:34:04 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201241 <blockquote>my Critical Mass mod</blockquote> Dude? Where?

my Critical Mass mod

Dude? Where?

]]> By: Old Scratch http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201240 Old Scratch Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:32:09 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201240 <blockquote>I’ve played CC, where do you think the screenshots come from and how did I write my review! BTW, I didn’t like the sniper rifle. Lastly, chasing and fighting GF are very different.</blockquote> Egh, I figured you got one of your little enslaved vortigaunts to get the screencaps for you, and then give you the Cliff's Notes for the summary. :-p Fuddy-duddy. ;-)

I’ve played CC, where do you think the screenshots come from and how did I write my review! BTW, I didn’t like the sniper rifle. Lastly, chasing and fighting GF are very different.

Egh, I figured you got one of your little enslaved vortigaunts to get the screencaps for you, and then give you the Cliff’s Notes for the summary. :-p

Fuddy-duddy. ;-)

]]> By: planetphillip http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201161 planetphillip Wed, 25 Mar 2009 23:59:05 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201161 I've played CC, where do you think the screenshots come from and how did I write my review! BTW, I didn't like the sniper rifle. Lastly, chasing and fighting GF are very different. I’ve played CC, where do you think the screenshots come from and how did I write my review! BTW, I didn’t like the sniper rifle. Lastly, chasing and fighting GF are very different.
]]> By: your evil twin http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201148 your evil twin Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:15:10 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201148 <blockquote>isn’t that the idea of “opposing force”?</blockquote> Indeed, the original concept of my Critical Mass mod was that it was essentially a sort of Opposing Force 2. I thought it was a real cop-out that Opposing Force's description said that you were one of the soliders sent in to kill Freeman, yet in the game you only got to see Freeman for about two seconds, and you didn't even get to fight any Black Mesa civillians. You didn't feel like part of the "Opposing Force". At the time Valve hadn't released info on the story of Half-Life 2. In Critical Mass the G-Man was part of a cabal within the government that posessed teleportation, nanotechnology etc and which reckoned they were the only ones responsible enough to use such technology. The plot was that G-Man would seemingly "release" Adrian Shephard but would actually use him as a pawn in a scheme to shut down a new military project, and then attempt to eliminate him when he outlived his usefulness. He'd fool the US military into thinking you were a threat, send special Black Ops teams to assassinate you, and even teleport in Gordon Freeman. Gordon Freeman was intended to be a recurring boss character. Essentially, he would be The Terminator. He'd teleport in, attack you with an aresnal of powerful weapons, and you'd have to try and survive and wear him down. When you injured him enough he would escape, only to come back back later even more heavily armed. The mod was supposed to have multiple endings. In one, you'd stop the scheme and destroy the headquarters of the sinister government agency, but G-Man would escape and Freeman's fate would be unknown. This was intended to be consistant with any future Half-Life game. In the alternative ending, you'd ignore the agency and go to G-Man's mansion to get revenge on him personally. In the final showdown, he'd appear to be unbeatable thanks to his advanced technology, but Freeman would see that he was vulnerable and turn against him, and aid you in the final fight. Together, Freeman and Shephard would destroy him once and for all.

isn’t that the idea of “opposing force”?

Indeed, the original concept of my Critical Mass mod was that it was essentially a sort of Opposing Force 2. I thought it was a real cop-out that Opposing Force’s description said that you were one of the soliders sent in to kill Freeman, yet in the game you only got to see Freeman for about two seconds, and you didn’t even get to fight any Black Mesa civillians. You didn’t feel like part of the “Opposing Force”.

At the time Valve hadn’t released info on the story of Half-Life 2. In Critical Mass the G-Man was part of a cabal within the government that posessed teleportation, nanotechnology etc and which reckoned they were the only ones responsible enough to use such technology.

The plot was that G-Man would seemingly “release” Adrian Shephard but would actually use him as a pawn in a scheme to shut down a new military project, and then attempt to eliminate him when he outlived his usefulness. He’d fool the US military into thinking you were a threat, send special Black Ops teams to assassinate you, and even teleport in Gordon Freeman.

Gordon Freeman was intended to be a recurring boss character. Essentially, he would be The Terminator. He’d teleport in, attack you with an aresnal of powerful weapons, and you’d have to try and survive and wear him down. When you injured him enough he would escape, only to come back back later even more heavily armed.

The mod was supposed to have multiple endings. In one, you’d stop the scheme and destroy the headquarters of the sinister government agency, but G-Man would escape and Freeman’s fate would be unknown. This was intended to be consistant with any future Half-Life game.

In the alternative ending, you’d ignore the agency and go to G-Man’s mansion to get revenge on him personally. In the final showdown, he’d appear to be unbeatable thanks to his advanced technology, but Freeman would see that he was vulnerable and turn against him, and aid you in the final fight. Together, Freeman and Shephard would destroy him once and for all.

]]> By: Old Scratch http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201142 Old Scratch Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:00:06 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201142 PP, you should try Combine Combat, you might like it.. the sniper rifle alone is worth it. PP, you should try Combine Combat, you might like it.. the sniper rifle alone is worth it.
]]> By: Anonymous http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201062 Anonymous Wed, 25 Mar 2009 02:47:56 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201062 you were shooting the breeze like smoking some pot? i would fight dr gordon because hes a nerd, and in the middle of the rebels if it wasnt for the suit people would kick his ass soon you were shooting the breeze like smoking some pot? i would fight dr gordon because hes a nerd, and in the middle of the rebels if it wasnt for the suit people would kick his ass soon
]]> By: Ade http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201018 Ade Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:43:48 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201018 Yeah, it doesn't have to be a one-on-one thing, you could have different purposes and go through the entire mod pushing buttons, solving puzzles in parallel, or fighting a war but never actually facing him. Or it could turn into a psychological, mind twisting thing like you fight yourself, or your alter ego. Too bad I can't be technical about how exactly this could be implemented. The question does not specify: as whom do I fight against GF? I could also be Barney, fighting for Alyx or sumthin. In that case, sure, I'd go for a one-on-one, only if I have the chance to outsmart him in a big, complicated map, because I know that face to face, my chances are slim if he's not weakened first. Yeah, it doesn’t have to be a one-on-one thing, you could have different purposes and go through the entire mod pushing buttons, solving puzzles in parallel, or fighting a war but never actually facing him. Or it could turn into a psychological, mind twisting thing like you fight yourself, or your alter ego. Too bad I can’t be technical about how exactly this could be implemented.
The question does not specify: as whom do I fight against GF? I could also be Barney, fighting for Alyx or sumthin. In that case, sure, I’d go for a one-on-one, only if I have the chance to outsmart him in a big, complicated map, because I know that face to face, my chances are slim if he’s not weakened first.
]]> By: planetphillip http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201014 planetphillip Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:29:17 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201014 I don't think I have played that mod. The reviews don't seem too promising! I don’t think I have played that mod. The reviews don’t seem too promising!
]]> By: planetphillip http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201013 planetphillip Tue, 24 Mar 2009 12:28:24 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201013 Yes, I did think of CC when I wrote the poll but since you don't catch him I didn't mention it. Yes, I did think of CC when I wrote the poll but since you don’t catch him I didn’t mention it.
]]> By: Old Scratch http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-201001 Old Scratch Tue, 24 Mar 2009 08:47:12 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-201001 There is an HL2 mod called Combine Combat that does this, except you're chasing him, and don't actually battle him (tho I was looking forward to doing so). I think it would be a cool thing to do. There is an HL2 mod called Combine Combat that does this, except you’re chasing him, and don’t actually battle him (tho I was looking forward to doing so). I think it would be a cool thing to do.
]]> By: Kyouryuu http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200977 Kyouryuu Tue, 24 Mar 2009 03:27:14 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200977 I don't have any real problem with fighting Freeman, but I think in trying to stay within Valve design sense, fighting him indirectly would probably be the preferred way to go. That is, instead of getting into a one-on-one deathmatch with him personally, maybe he is controlling a machine or manipulating things in a level to get in your way. Passive engagement, in other words. I don’t have any real problem with fighting Freeman, but I think in trying to stay within Valve design sense, fighting him indirectly would probably be the preferred way to go. That is, instead of getting into a one-on-one deathmatch with him personally, maybe he is controlling a machine or manipulating things in a level to get in your way. Passive engagement, in other words.
]]> By: Ricki http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200966 Ricki Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:29:13 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200966 <blockquote>Hmm, can you kill him?</blockquote> Of course! After you kill him you continue in story. As I remember he's reskinned Barney with colt,and has about 200 health. I killed him with slowmotion effect you can use in this mod. I think it's this: /posts/black-death-half-life/

Hmm, can you kill him?

Of course! After you kill him you continue in story.
As I remember he’s reskinned Barney with colt,and has about 200 health.
I killed him with slowmotion effect you can use in this mod.
I think it’s this:
/posts/black-death-half-life/

]]> By: Straven http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200963 Straven Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:29:57 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200963 If a modder could give this concept a great story then fighting Freeman would be a good thing. EXAMPLES: 1.Real Mod:You fight him in a HL2 mod called HL2 old school,(here on PP) and the reason for this is that he is an evil clone created to fight you, or at least so it is implied by the scenery. 2.Story Idea: You have to fight Freeman from an elite combine perspective first at the beginning of a mod and he completely dominates you and for some reason knocks you out and then you wake up some time later and swear revenge and you then fight him again at the end of the mod in an epic boss fight and you win 3.Story Idea: You've been working to the goal of finding a combine secret weapon/rebel weapon gone bad, and you find out it's a Freeman cloning project and you have to fight one to destroy the facility/project. If a modder could give this concept a great story then fighting Freeman would be a good thing.
EXAMPLES:
1.Real Mod:You fight him in a HL2 mod called HL2 old school,(here on PP) and the reason for this is that he is an evil clone created to fight you, or at least so it is implied by the scenery.
2.Story Idea: You have to fight Freeman from an elite combine perspective first at the beginning of a mod and he completely dominates you and for some reason knocks you out and then you wake up some time later and swear revenge and you then fight him again at the end of the mod in an epic boss fight and you win
3.Story Idea: You’ve been working to the goal of finding a combine secret weapon/rebel weapon gone bad, and you find out it’s a Freeman cloning project and you have to fight one to destroy the facility/project.
]]> By: Jeff http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200947 Jeff Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:53:08 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200947 I know for a fact that Gordon Freeman has died thousands of times... what's one more? :) Seriously, it might be a challenge for a modder to give Gordy some respectable AI, but I'd certainly love to play such a mod if it was done well. fighting against Alyx or Barney would be much more difficult for me, but Gordon is fair game in my book. I know for a fact that Gordon Freeman has died thousands of times… what’s one more? :) Seriously, it might be a challenge for a modder to give Gordy some respectable AI, but I’d certainly love to play such a mod if it was done well. fighting against Alyx or Barney would be much more difficult for me, but Gordon is fair game in my book.
]]> By: WizardExt http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200893 WizardExt Sun, 22 Mar 2009 19:30:02 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200893 I don't like the idea of fighting against Gordon Freeman. He is a hero and fighting evil in a world of chaos. In the Half-Life universe I don't see how it would be a good thing to battle against Gordon. Why would the player want that? I don’t like the idea of fighting against Gordon Freeman. He is a hero and fighting evil in a world of chaos. In the Half-Life universe I don’t see how it would be a good thing to battle against Gordon. Why would the player want that?
]]> By: civanT http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200858 civanT Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:04:09 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200858 It would be awesome. He is so tough. We should fight him and if we can endure him until the end of the fight, he should knock us out. THen he goes away and we go to our own way. This is for a HL universe mod of course. If it is not it can be a very tough boss fight. I'd love to have a fight against freeman. It would be awesome. He is so tough. We should fight him and if we can endure him until the end of the fight, he should knock us out. THen he goes away and we go to our own way. This is for a HL universe mod of course. If it is not it can be a very tough boss fight. I’d love to have a fight against freeman.
]]> By: mastercman333 http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200855 mastercman333 Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:57:12 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200855 I think it would be cool, just because it would be a challenge, well, if his AI is coded good. I think it would be cool, just because it would be a challenge, well, if his AI is coded good.
]]> By: planetphillip http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200854 planetphillip Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:44:06 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200854 <blockquote>isn’t that the idea of “opposing force”?</blockquote> Yes, but you never actually get to fight him. <blockquote>You can fight against Gordon in mod for HL1 (don’t know exact name but i think something like BlackOps) I think it’s on PP too.</blockquote> Hmm, can you kill him?

isn’t that the idea of “opposing force”?

Yes, but you never actually get to fight him.

You can fight against Gordon in mod for HL1 (don’t know exact name but i think something like BlackOps) I think it’s on PP too.

Hmm, can you kill him?

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200853 Anonymous Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:31:35 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200853 isn't that the idea of "opposing force"? isn’t that the idea of “opposing force”?
]]> By: Ricki http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200852 Ricki Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:31:12 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200852 You can fight against Gordon in mod for HL1 (don't know exact name but i think something like BlackOps) I think it's on PP too. You can fight against Gordon in mod for HL1 (don’t know exact name but i think something like BlackOps)
I think it’s on PP too.
]]> By: oopla http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200847 oopla Sun, 22 Mar 2009 12:01:48 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200847 I would love a chance to fight against him. Especially if I could beat him only with a crowbar. I would love a chance to fight against him. Especially if I could beat him only with a crowbar.
]]> By: Sortie http://www.planetphillip.com/posts/poll-question-116/comment-page-1/#comment-200842 Sortie Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:35:38 +0000 http://www.planetphillip.com/?p=4484#comment-200842 While it could be fun to fight him as a boss, I don't really like boss battles, or putting Gordon Freeman into mods without a reason. But if anyone made it, I'd give it a try. I voted no. While it could be fun to fight him as a boss, I don’t really like boss battles, or putting Gordon Freeman into mods without a reason. But if anyone made it, I’d give it a try. I voted no.
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