Comments on: Setup Gameplay Idea

By: Old Scratch

Old Scratch — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:06:38 +0000

I like this idea, honestly, because I have so much trouble getting my squad to do anything useful, short of being cannon fodder. Most times, they mull about and get in my way, and when I tell ‘em to stay put, they break orders as soon as I get a certain distance away.

I also like the idea of strategic/tactical setups: I do this wherever possible to give myself a decent vantage, and force the combine into what I call a “pinch point”, where they MUST go thru in order to get to me–of course, I’m positioned to pick ‘em off as they come thru.

So, yes: if someone can pull this off–especially the finer control of the rebel squads–I’d be all for it.

By: Old Scratch

Old Scratch — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 18:01:27 +0000

I also once – with a little cheating I must admit – managed to lure some 18 rebels into the square where you have to defend Alyx as she prepares the generator for disabling. The rebels held the ground quite nicely and I barely needed to assist them at all.

How’d you mange that??

By: planetphillip

planetphillip — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:18:25 +0000

Sounds like a possible solution. From a use point of view it would be nice that once you set-up the enviroment you could slect a “Create AI Path” a run the path you want to create. AS you say they could be prioritzed.

By: Henley B

Henley B — Fri, 22 Sep 2006 17:12:09 +0000

I believe this would be possible by perhaps creating a simple vgui in hl2 with different node types in. For example, the player walks over to some crates and looks at the floor, he then brings up the node menu and selects ground node and type to crouch. Then the player sets different priorities depending how he wants the ai to act. It would be a little like herding sheep in the way that you give the AI enough of a hint that you hope your team is successful. You could even bring up a node path view (sv_cheats 1 then press CTRL + SHIFT + F1 and go to the nodes tab). This would show the player the connections between nodes and there may be a way for the player to select these and again prioritise them. Basically the player would be doing what is done in Hammer. You could even create quick keys for certain paths which in the heat of battle would be like giving an order by literally severing paths so your squad don’t use them anymore and basically redirecting them. Anyway, I’ll stop rambling.

By: Zockopa

Zockopa — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:17:02 +0000

I guess its a nice idea for a task IN a mod to setup a defense perimeter. Its not a new idea (it was done f.e. in U2) but it is – properly done – a challenging break from normal run and gun gaming. To base a entire mod on this concept could be interesting.

By: planetphillip

planetphillip — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 15:28:41 +0000

In the NovaProspect episode you can cart all kinds of tables, cabinets, oildrums and about 5 or 6 turrets into the area where you have the set-battle before you meet up with Alyx the second time

True, I had forgotten about that. I was thinking of a mod where you primary objective was not shooting. Person more people should create levels like this?

By: PasserbywhoplaysHL

PasserbywhoplaysHL — Wed, 20 Sep 2006 12:38:18 +0000

You can already do things like this in HL2 to a certain extent. In the NovaProspect episode you can cart all kinds of tables, cabinets, oildrums and about 5 or 6 turrets into the area where you have the set-battle before you meet up with Alyx the second time – you trigger the start of the battle by positioning the last turret. You can do the same with the teleport room.

I also once – with a little cheating I must admit – managed to lure some 18 rebels into the square where you have to defend Alyx as she prepares the generator for disabling. The rebels held the ground quite nicely and I barely needed to assist them at all.

Good fun – and yes – more of it would be welcome.